SUCH great stories! Have you read the sequel to The House by the Cerulean Sea? I enjoyed it very much. I also really (really!) loved another of the author's books: Under the Whispering Door. And Ted Lasso is the best. No doubt. Did you know that they referenced Brene Brown's work a lot? Very cool.
I did not know there was a sequel!! Omg. So cool. I do have under the whispering door but haven’t read it yet. I picked up cerulean because I walked into a small book shop in Juneau Alaska and they had a little shop descriptor that said something like “this book is like wrapping yourself up in a big cozy gay blanket.” So of course I had to buy it 😄
I'm no expert (yet!), but I think Buffy is an excellent example of a mash up between the hero's journey and the heroine's journey. At times, she definitely takes on the whole loner thing; BUT in many cases, she's only able to overcome the Big Bad with help from her faithful Scooby Gang. I haven't had a rewatch in a long while, but it almost seems like she's resisting the heroine's journey while everyone else is embracing it. Would be very interesting to explore further.
It is so interesting to read about the hero and heroine journeys. Thank you for sharing all this information - and those gorgeous images! I definitely resonate with the heroine journey. I cannot remember an instance when I might have been tempted to put on that metaphorical cowboy hat and ride off to save the day. 😉 But collaboration - yes!
What caught my eye was that, at the end of their journeys, heroines compromise while heroes win outright. Why is that? In a compromise, everyone wins something and loses something. Why does the heroine have to lose anything? Is there such a thing as a journey that embraces innovation - a journey that includes thinking through issues differently to create something that ends in a win for both? Maybe that one is the dog's journey. They do have the best perspective! 😊
It's an interesting question, Cathy. I think life is made up more of compromises than of clear-cut win/lose scenarios. At least, that's been my experience. I do agree, though, that dogs have the best approach. Always. We should just let them run things. ;)
I like how you highlight the heroines journey as an opposing narrative to the norm we, as a society seem to have inadvertently acccepted. The hero's journey is so deeply embedded we, who need to be heroic, who seek that voice, give away our true selves in adopting the masculine as a primary way of journeying through this world.
The value of the heroines journey, the absolute need and recognition of the qualities and values inherent are tantamount to our survival. To more than survival. To living fully, richly, wholly.
I could not agree more, Eileen: "... give away our true selves in adopting the masculine as a primary way of journeying through this world." So well said. Thank you for sharing that.
It's so true, Eileen. My default when I'm backed into a corner and feel the need to be "heroic" is to - as you put it - "adopt" the traits of traditionally masculine heroes ... a no-holds-barred kind of vengeance. But that seems to be how we got here. I don't think it's how we're going to get out of this mess. (As cathartic as that might be ... in the moment ... for a moment.) The Heroine's Journey holds so much more wisdom and compassion, and I'm here for it.
I hope you enjoy it, Rhaine! I have both a hard copy (for reference) and the audio book. I love Carriger's sense of humor and general irreverence. I have a feeling you will too! 😉
Also I LOVE house by the cerulean sea and I’ve seen Ted lasso probably 700x. I need to check out the others on your list.
SUCH great stories! Have you read the sequel to The House by the Cerulean Sea? I enjoyed it very much. I also really (really!) loved another of the author's books: Under the Whispering Door. And Ted Lasso is the best. No doubt. Did you know that they referenced Brene Brown's work a lot? Very cool.
I did not know there was a sequel!! Omg. So cool. I do have under the whispering door but haven’t read it yet. I picked up cerulean because I walked into a small book shop in Juneau Alaska and they had a little shop descriptor that said something like “this book is like wrapping yourself up in a big cozy gay blanket.” So of course I had to buy it 😄
Why do I keep thinking about Buffy? 😍
I'm no expert (yet!), but I think Buffy is an excellent example of a mash up between the hero's journey and the heroine's journey. At times, she definitely takes on the whole loner thing; BUT in many cases, she's only able to overcome the Big Bad with help from her faithful Scooby Gang. I haven't had a rewatch in a long while, but it almost seems like she's resisting the heroine's journey while everyone else is embracing it. Would be very interesting to explore further.
You’re right of course. She definitely pulls the hero card. Despite proving time and time again that she’s better off with the scoobies.
It is so interesting to read about the hero and heroine journeys. Thank you for sharing all this information - and those gorgeous images! I definitely resonate with the heroine journey. I cannot remember an instance when I might have been tempted to put on that metaphorical cowboy hat and ride off to save the day. 😉 But collaboration - yes!
What caught my eye was that, at the end of their journeys, heroines compromise while heroes win outright. Why is that? In a compromise, everyone wins something and loses something. Why does the heroine have to lose anything? Is there such a thing as a journey that embraces innovation - a journey that includes thinking through issues differently to create something that ends in a win for both? Maybe that one is the dog's journey. They do have the best perspective! 😊
It's an interesting question, Cathy. I think life is made up more of compromises than of clear-cut win/lose scenarios. At least, that's been my experience. I do agree, though, that dogs have the best approach. Always. We should just let them run things. ;)
I agree that life is made up of mostly compromises - and that dogs should run and let us love them!
I like how you highlight the heroines journey as an opposing narrative to the norm we, as a society seem to have inadvertently acccepted. The hero's journey is so deeply embedded we, who need to be heroic, who seek that voice, give away our true selves in adopting the masculine as a primary way of journeying through this world.
The value of the heroines journey, the absolute need and recognition of the qualities and values inherent are tantamount to our survival. To more than survival. To living fully, richly, wholly.
I could not agree more, Eileen: "... give away our true selves in adopting the masculine as a primary way of journeying through this world." So well said. Thank you for sharing that.
It's so true, Eileen. My default when I'm backed into a corner and feel the need to be "heroic" is to - as you put it - "adopt" the traits of traditionally masculine heroes ... a no-holds-barred kind of vengeance. But that seems to be how we got here. I don't think it's how we're going to get out of this mess. (As cathartic as that might be ... in the moment ... for a moment.) The Heroine's Journey holds so much more wisdom and compassion, and I'm here for it.
Yes! In so many ways I think, even believe, we are forever bound by the heroes journey. That is, it's heavily embedded in our psyche.
I "take my hat off" (and therein is mini proof!) to you, and those, who successfully challenge it.
Perhaps I need to seek out writers, authors, poets who are well versed, well practices in the heroines journey.
Thankyou, Jamie, for opening my mind and refreshing perspectives that seem timely to explore more deeply.
Loving this Jamie! I just ordered the digital book.
I hope you enjoy it, Rhaine! I have both a hard copy (for reference) and the audio book. I love Carriger's sense of humor and general irreverence. I have a feeling you will too! 😉